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Apr272016

Arsenal board setting their demise in motion

Leicester City hammered Swansea on Sunday and Tottenham slipped up against West Brom, drawing 1-1. Spurs were unlucky by all accounts, but with so little margin for error the dropped points are an almost fatal blow to their title ambitions.

I didn’t think Leicester would miss Jamie Vardy that much against Swansea, because he doesn’t score very often playing against teams that defend deep.

The title will go to Leicester if they can win one of their remaining three games. However, I hope it’s not against Man Utd on Sunday because I want Man Utd to come fourth and knock Arsenal out of the Champions League spots.

Being out of the Champions League has no effect on Arsenal supporters because Wenger is such a tactical dimwit he has 0% chance of competing for the competition and the revenue Arsenal make from it is rarely spent anyway. But it will pile more pressure on Wenger and the board, and that’s what I want to see.

Long overdue protests are now planned for the home game against Norwich on Saturday - in the ground. The stadium looked half empty against West Brom last week, so it will be nice to see even fewer people turn up, and many of those that do protesting.

Fan groups such as REDaction and the Black Scarf Movement are set to give signs for supporters to hold during the match protesting against Wenger and owner Stan Kroenke’s farcical lack of ambition.

Some say this will have an adverse effect on the players, but the club is more important than the players and the club needs change.

The players also need change. They deserve a manager that can help them realise their potential and make the most of their careers, so you could argue that supporters protesting during the game is for the players’ long-term benefit.

As supporters, we should always think of Arsenal FC as a holistic institution, and how that institution is governed is more important than anything. If it’s overseen by individuals that first and foremost only care about stuffing their pockets with your money, then they need to be removed.

Gazidis, Kroenke and Wenger are all in it together. They are risk averse and afraid to gamble their cushy jobs and self-appointed salaries and bonuses. By keeping the status quo, they can continue to pay themselves disproportionate amounts of money at the expense of your satisfaction and the club’s future.

Like all businesses, it is investment that brings success, and if you don’t invest you fall behind. Investment requires having a vision. Experience and good judgment reduce risk. It is the board’s lack of these qualities that has resulted in their cowardly denial of responsibilities.

Their refusal to sack a manager that has become a farcical shadow of his former self only demonstrates their impotence and has resulted in a never-ending pattern of mediocrity that is boring the supporters to tears.

Fans are not stupid (well most of them), and are now completely fed up. This was all obvious six or seven years ago. Some of us had a level of insight, but too many have an agenda based around refusing to admit they have misjudged Wenger. Those fans have been manipulated and their loyalty thrown back in their face.

Will Wenger be at Arsenal next season? Probably. But if there is a slim chance he won’t, then it’s incumbent on the fans to enforce change if the board won’t. In my opinion, the board needs to wake up as it is skating on thin ice. Through their inaction, they have very much become a target of the fans ire, and once the wheels are properly in motion it’s very difficult to reverse them, as suspicion and intolerance becomes ingrained in the supporters’ psyche.

If the Arsenal board wants to avoid fanning the flames of its eventual demise, Kroenke and Gazidis need to utilise whatever experience they do have and start making the big decisions required to push the club forward. That starts with letting Arsene Wenger go and being bold enough to stand behind their decision to appoint the club’s managerial successor.

If that appointment was to end in failure – perhaps worse than the current failure that Wenger is, they will be forgiven for at least trying to steer the ship in the right direction. The biggest failure is inaction. Accepting hopelessness, and the perpetual mediocrity served up by an insufferable hubristic dictator, can no longer be forgiven.

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It is not so much Wenger but the owner Kroenke. He has already said that he has no interest in silverware but the profits the club makes to buy more ranch land in the US.

It is time the Arsenal fans turn on him and let Alisher Usmanov take over the club. He has on numerous occasions stated that he will spend money on the club to improve it. Being in the top 4 in the league is not good enough.

Football is all about winning silverware, and as a result bring promoters and investors in the club.

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AT

Wenger needs to go first. The current squad is already capable of challenging for the title and the board is not standing in his way of spending a large proportion of its £200m cash reserves.

April 27, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterJagdeep Hundal

Wenger must go.

April 27, 2016 | Unregistered Commenternice

Kroenke cannot be blamed for the numerous embarrassments Wenger has caused the club. Arsenal have become the butt of jokes. Kroenke is not in charge of tactics. Wenger should leave first.

April 27, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterLoop

HI AT

1) Leicester don't have to win the championship, just avoid defeat in their final three games.

2) If Wenger being in charge next season would guarantee him leaving at the end of it would you find it acceptable?

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AT

2) Yes, as long as he doesn't go upstairs.

April 27, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterChris J

Brilliant write up AT. As I've said to others who obsess over Kroenke, it's simple really:

If you kept Kroenke as owner this season, the exact same squad, but had as your manager one of: Simeone, Guardiola, Ancelotti, Mourinho, Klopp, Pochettino or even Ranieri, Arsenal would win the PL and compete well in CL.

If you brought in a new owner though and kept Monsieur Muggins in charge? Well, it would be 4th place and routine CL last-16 humiliation.

Over 12 years we've seen numerous players...medical staff...assistants...physios...medical teams...formations...positional changes...style of play...more money....we've even seen a new stadium. Everything has changed. One foul smell has remained constant though.

Wenker must go. No ifs, no buts - let him go first.

Once he's out the door, the ire should turn to Gazidis and Kroenke for conning and robbing the fans blind for over a decade, and their appalling lack of ambition.

April 27, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterRaskolnikov

I cannot understand why Usmanov does not buy the necessary shares to challenge Kroenke directly.
It is clear that Wenger's demise began when David Dein left - he has just become progressively lost ever since.

With every challenge to his ability - together with each subsequent failure, Wenger has become more stubborn and risk averse in order to try and regain his confidence.

He needs to go and the next season must be his last, giving him the right to be involved in finding his successor.

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AT

There are no more shares left to buy, so if Kroenke doesn't sell to Usmanov he can't gain control of the club. Anyway, Usmanov is a Wenger fan so I wouldn't anyone that misguided in charge.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterSW16Gooner

Wenger's starting to remind me of a cockroach after a nuclear holocaust. No matter how much you try, and how much he might deserve it, you just can't get rid of him.

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AT

That's an insult to cockroaches - they don't manipulate.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGary B

Still people persist with the excuse that Wenger has been denied funds. Do they need reminding that Leicester sit top of the table with a squad that cost about a fifth of Arsenal's, with their most expensive signing costing approximately 4/5ths of a Giroud. Theo Walcott earns more than any Leicester City player FFS.

Now that the argument to oust Wenger has been conclusively won and the AKB is a dying breed (or at the very least is in hiding and licking its wounds) please tell me you're going to continue blogging AT.

I know you say there is nothing to blog about, but you're needed more than ever. The first response to this article (excellent and very well written again btw) proves it.

I know that there is little or no hope of Wenger leaving this summer, and I don't expect to see it, but every person who reads this blog and is thereby convinced that change is needed is helping to move Wenger one step closer to the exit.

Just a word on Leicester, there are much better reasons to want them to win it than just making Wenger look like a fool. What a story.

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AT

I suppose I will blog, but even more infrequently. There is not much appetite to keep repeating myself. The only reason I'm writing anything now is because the fans have turned on Wenger in a big way, and with Leicester top the PL has been interesting for once.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGunnergettheresomeday

THE ACCOUNTABILITY GOES TO ALL OF THEM ACCORDINGLY, so we blame for all. Especially Wenger, he is always rigid and does not want to listen. The real problem has been pointed out by Henry and others.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterTEWE

Wenger = cunt.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterDave

You are right, the only chance there will be any change is if the fans show their discontent. The quotes below are from Gazidis in June 2011, after another season like this one.

"I share with you a sense of profound disappointment. We had a season that promised a great deal and looked like it could turn into a very special one, but in the end a familiar story began to tell itself. I understand the feelings that we all felt.

Arsene is ultimately accountable to the fans – they ultimately make judgement. If you are seeing the relationship between the fans and the manager break down over time that is unsustainable. But I don’t think we are anywhere near that."

I think we are a lot nearer that now, and Gazidis more than anyone at the club, including Wenger, knows that if the club lose the fans support of the manager, and by default, the team, then they are in real trouble.

This is the first year when it has been open season within the press to criticise Wenger, and it is now coming from all quarters. Wenger has managed to control the agenda in the past, but the journalists just don't care anymore because they are writing what they know the fans want to read.

I get a real sense that this change is going to have an impact. People are just not accepting the excuses from Wenger, the "well you haven't managed a team so you can't have an opinion" contemptuous response to anyone who dares question him.

The problem Wenger has now is everyone is questioning him. Worse still, he has a big problem that undermines his whole philosophy. To change now would be to accept what he has done for the past 10 years was wrong and the changes he needs to make are all the ones that the people who apparently know nothing about football because they have not managed have been saying for years.

He's trapped and his stubborn nature stops him doing what the best managers in any job do. That is bring in absolutely the best people they can afford to fill in for their deficiencies, delegate and look at what the best practices are elsewhere and implement most of them. However, that would mean he is wrong.

He won’t change, so we have to change him. This has nothing to do with getting Kroenke out. We are damming Kroenke at the moment, but he has never actually hired a manager. Give him his chance to do that and if he underdelivers then we know who the next target is.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterDavid W

Kroenke and the board are in charge, they hire and fire the manager and set the targets and the ambitions of the club, of course they're responsible. If he continues to hire Wenger despite all these embarrassments, then of course he should take responsibility. If this was Chelsea, Wenegr would've been sacked years ago and we might be in a much better position now.

The reality at Arsenal, and why he's still in charge, is because as far as the board are concerned he IS doing a good job. If Wenger goes and we bring in another manager who continues to underachieve and we finish fourth every season, they'll be just as happy.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterhenry8

Kroenke is to blame, why? He is the owner of the club and the performance of the team should be his first priority, and when Loop says he is not to blame, I disagree with him. The reason why?Kroenke says he did not buy Arsenal to win trophies!

Those words are an insult to Arsenal supporters. I am surprised when some of our supporters are saying Kroenke is not to blame for all what is happening. I ASK MYSELF, ARE THESE TRUE ARSENAL SUPPORTERS? KROENKE is THE TROUBLE CAUSER.

If you go back and make a proper research, you will notice that since he took over OWNERSHIP OF ARSENAL the team began to deteriorate, and Arsenal has never improved since his takeover. During the time when DAVID DEAN was VICE CHAIRMAN at Arsenal, everything was going very well.

What supporters do not see or know is that the OWNER is investing the money generated by Arsenal into other businesses, not in football. I disagree with those who are calling for Wenger's head. Wenger need support from those who employed him.

If the owner says he did not buy the club to win trophies, those who want Wenger out - what do they think? All what supporters think is that Wenger is refusing to use the money, but that is not the case. Wenger always protect his employer to make sure he does not compromise the ETHICS and RULES OF THE COMPANY, HE IS NOT GIVEN THE REQUIRED AMOUNT TO MAKE SURE HE CAN BUY QUALITY PLAYERS, BUT HE IS GIVEN SICK MONEY, then people think Wenger is the trouble causer, he is not.

He needs full support, like the support he used to get when DAVID DEIN was still Vice Chairman. Wenger is the right man but you cannot expect Wenger to win games with a central striker like GIROUD. Only SANCHEZ can score goals for Arsenal, and people expect Wenger to make miracles himself, yet players are getting 23 chances and they cannot score, not even a single goal.

I think that when we look at problems in the team, we should BE REASONABLE ENOUGH TO OPEN OUR MINDS and see how problems can be solved. Young supporters are always after the coach when a team is not doing well, by so doing the team will be destroyed. We should have PROPER REASONING BEFORE WE CALL FOR THE COACH TO BE FIRED. Why not PROTEST AGAINST THE OWNER? It shows most of us supporters do not make proper research of what is happening inside Arsenal board and management.

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AT

Where's your evidence that Wenger is not supported financially? There is over £200m sitting in the bank doing nothing. Last season, Arsenal made a £65m net loss in the transfer market, so obviously the board is willing to back Wenger financially.

My truck with the board is that they're not ambitious enough to sack Wenger for underperformance, which is nothing to do with lack of financial support.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterDelford Magaya

Just in case people hadn't realised, Kroenke is an American and doesn't care if Arsenal win the Premier League or finish above Spurs. All he wants is for a return on his investment, the same as all of us do who put a bit of money away for a rainy day.

The problem at Arsenal is that Wenger has either lost all his ambition or feels that if you aim low it's harder to fail.

I've never yet heard the story that Kroenke has denied Wenger funds, I'm more likely to hear that Wenger can't find any players to buy.

Also, developing young players is not a strategy that will win major trophies. The class of '92 at Man Utd was a fluke and won't happen again. You won't see Chelsea or Man City bringing on youth at the expense of success on the pitch.

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AT

Tottenham's squad is the youngest in the PL, so I'd say it is still possible to win the PL with young players. Having seen what Leicester has achieved, anything is possible.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterKevvy

Wenger is the core reason for Arsenal's failings, not Kroenke. We have all (supporters and players) stagnated under his regime over the past eight years.

Bored by the predictability of it all, he must be removed immediately for the club to flourish once again. Pay him off quick and send him on his way!

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

Whilst Kroenke and Gazedis are odious characters, at the epicentre of all that is wrong at Arsenal is Wenger. I would love to see wholesale change - Usmanov becoming the majority shareholder and Gazidis sacked, but Wenger is the main man to shift out.

He picks the team, he is the one refusing to fully utilise the money at his disposal and talking up crap players as if they were world beaters. That's before we get on to his one dimensional tactics and daft, ineffective substitutions.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered Commenter1970Gooner

I'm afraid Wenger (who has done a great job over the years), has outdone his stay. We haven't been able to defend for the last 4 to 5 years, and that must be down to him for not investing in good experienced players. All you read is that they are looking at 16 & 17-year-olds that may good or not in 4 years time.

All he seams interested in is to fill the stadium and make money (that may not be true), but the club is not spending the money. I have been an Arsenal fan since the late '40s and when I see how the other North London club are doing when they appointed a new man, why can't we? But it looks like we are going to have another 12 months of inaction.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterPeter Gaylor

From a Leicester fan - you guys are crazy to consider Wenger should leave. He's achieved European competition every season; do you know how many teams would love to be in that position? Look what happened Fergie left Man U, look at Chelsea, Liverpool. I don't think you realise how good you have it, in perhaps, the best competitive league in the world - be careful what you wish for.

It seems to me that there's a lot more going on than Wenger - I believe the club isn't being ran in the way he would like it to be and I don't think he's getting the support needed. There's probably a nice pay package for him to keep things running the way they are. As fans, we'll never know what's really going on and that's perhaps the real frustration. I think it's unfair to take it out on Wenger - but that's just me. It's the club as a whole that needs to be looked at.

I hope things improve for you guys though - pains me to see fans suffer by mismanagement. Unfortunately, a lot of owners these days aren't looking to improve a club - it's just a toy for them to make money. Good luck.

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AT

With all due respect, not being an Arsenal supporter you do not have a nuanced understanding of the situation. Congratulations on your season.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterAsh

"He's achieved European competition every season".

What do we have to show for that? 1 Champions League cup final loss in over how many seasons?

The same tired old argument gets shuffled out from the usual suspects when discussing the possibility of replacing Wenger.

a) Who would replace him?

Plenty of good hungry managers who would love to coach at Arsenal. Gazidis is paid the top dollars to source positions like this so let's make him work for his money.

b) What if the new manager doesn't play attractive football?

What like we currently do?! Passive sideways and backwards football with no penetration. It's boring and most of the Premier League teams have found us out. Give me Simeone's defensive/counter attack football any day of the week.

c) We will end up like Manchester United and Liverpool, scraping below the top four.

We won't know unless we try. What's in the point of fourth and Champions League when you are going to do zero in each respective competition.

Whilst It would be great to see a new manager next season with a fresher tactical outlook who can take the players to a higher level, I am firmly of the opinion there will be no change even if we fail to finish in a top four position. So hop on to the groundhog season next season where we'll spend next to nothing in the summer and make the same mistakes and be cursing Wenger again in April 2017 when he signs a new 3 year contract.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterRashidinator

Quoting Delford Magaya: "If the owner says he did not buy the club to win trophies, those who want Wenger out - what do they think? All what supporters think is that Wenger is refusing to use the money, but that is not the case. Wenger always protect his employer to make sure he does not compromise the ETHICS and RULES OF THE COMPANY".

My question to you is this? Why would Wenger, with all the integrity and dignity he claims to have, cover up the board and their dubious acts? With the experience level of such a manager who has carried the club to greater levels, why would he compromise his integrity, loyalty and legacy just to cover some crazy investors? Rightly said, we do not know if this is the case, but true or not, the manager still has himself to blame. Why cant he stand to say I am not a part of this agenda to cover you investors and manipulate the fans?

To add to my point, this man's tactics are so outdated, predictable and one direction. Who is to blame for tactics and for properly motivating the players? The other day Squillaci, a former defender, came out to say Wenger told him that he wants the attackers to do less of the defensive work, but who doesn't know that if you don't defend as a group in the EPL you will be massively punished.

This can go on and on, WENGER IS A MAJOR CULPRIT, EITHER FOR NOT SPENDING OR COVERING UP THE DUBIOUS DEEDS OF THE INVESTOR OR FOR POOR TACTICS. # WENGER OUT# WE WANT A SIMEONE OR KLOPP KIND OF MANAGER# ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB IS FOR THE FANS#. WE WANT OUR LOVE BACK.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterRotimi

Hi AT,

Would you prefer to:

A) Hug Wenger for 10 secs
B) Be covered in dog shite for an hour

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AT

C) Cover Wenger in dog shit for an hour

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterChris J

Do you know how it is possible for a supporter of Arsenal - a real supporter - to want Arsenal to fail and other teams to come above them. However slick your argument, support for a club is visceral.

Tell me how many times you have been to the Emirates in the last three years, how long you have supported the club and how often you even watch on television.

Note the reaction of the Leicester fan which you poo-poo. Ask most Spurs fans if they want Wenger to leave. He has been the bane of their lives. And if he left because he is a tactical moron, no one will employ him. He will be sought after by any major club without a manager or any national team of substance.

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AT

Real supporters want what's best for Arsenal Football Club, not what's best for Arsene Wenger. A real supporter takes action when his club is rotting from the inside, clueless supporters do nothing and accept never-ending mediocrity.

I don't have to go to or watch a single game, my lack of support is the ultimate support. Why would I fund a regime that is robbing me blind? That would be the height of hypocrisy.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterHenry Root

Dear Ash, congrats on your team's wonderful achievement. As for Arsenal, whatever you may think, we don't have it good. Wenger is the key ton all of this and until he leaves, which is what I and the majority of fans wish for, we will not be satisfied customers.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

Whilst fans of others clubs are completely entitled to have their opinion, I am tired of hearing the whole line of ... be careful what you wish for, yadda yadda yadda. The difference is, we NEED change. Chelsea and Man Utd DID NOT. It is now become a no-brainer that Wenger leaves and we try our hand with a new guy.

Whatever that brings.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterneil

Delford Magaya: Kroenke 1%, Board 1%, Fans 8%, Wenger 90%. The blame falls on one man and one man alone.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

Problem is, Arsenal PLC is a money making juggernaut like almost nothing else. Having read a lot about Kroenke, I have learned that he will not give up his golden egg - it is simply too profitable.

Arsenal are valued at £2.5bn pounds and rising, and he bought it at pittance.

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AT

He will give up his golden egg when the fans are serious about deciding he is no longer wanted. No owner has or ever will survive prolonged protests when they affect the team, the brand and impact profitability.

April 28, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterDanish Gooner

AT, you and I both know, the so called 'Board' are nothing of the sort. It is a cabal. Wenger sets his own terms and the cabal agree to them. I have been with you all the way. I gave up my season ticket (held from Wenger's first season) in 2008 as I realised I no longer enjoyed what I was seeing. The football was dull tippy tappy, many of the players hopeless (the Song-Denilson axis was in full swing), no academy players coming through and Wenger seemingly buying only weak second rate overseas players (after Chelsea we became only the second side to field an entirely foreign side and did this regularly).

Tactics were abysmal and transfer windows (Squillachi anyone?) were a farce to be dreaded. I went through the classic phases, anger (writing to blogs, fanzines etc, telling anyone who listened that Wenger was the problem), sadness and then resignation and apathy.

I feel sad that my son who is now 7 isn't an Arsenal fan. He knows I 'was a fan', and knows that I don't hate the club, just the manager, but it has all gone - that love, that passion that feeling of nervousness, wanting them to win, willing them to win.

Now I barely watch and when I do, it is with the hope that they lose. I actively cheer the opposition inside if not openly (unless I'm at home) and I don't tell people who don't know me from before that I'm an Arsenal fan.

I take an interest in Leeds United (another appallingly run club, but at least they don't lie about it!) and say I support them for jollies, as I want to show I'm a football fan, and avoid the inevitable boring Wenger conversation.

Luckily, there aren't too many Leeds fans in Essex to catch me out! Anyway point is, I WANT THIS CUNT OUT, I'VE WANTED HIM OUT FOR YEARS AND WHEN HE GOES WE MIGHT GET OUR ARSENAL BACK. I hope I can then support with pride, my son can stop being 'mixed-up' and I can really love football again.

Please, please, I know I've abdicated responsibility and am leaving it to others, but please to those who do go, save the club for all of us. Do everything you can to get him out, the real fans will be eternally grateful. THANK YOU

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AT

By abandoning the club you've paid your part, nothing to be ashamed of. I tell all my friends that I want Arsenal to lose every match and they tell me they know Arsenal fans who think exactly the same thing.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterCHGooner

I think the anti-Wenger volume has been turned up a notch thanks to that shambles of a press conference. Feels like this is one of those days where bridges have well and truly been burnt forever.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterJoe P

AT, on your previous response to Usmanov being a Wenger fan: of course he could be but I think this is a subtle ploy. I would like to think Usmanov could see the glaringly obvious, but to get the required shares he needs the trust of this entrenched board, and to get the trust he needs to get them to believe he's with them on all things Wenger.

Once Usmanov has 51% however he can change all that. He just needs that majority. Perhaps I'm being optimistic and naïve but clutching at straws is what I'm left with.

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AT

Usmanov can't get to 51% unless Kroenke sells a proportion of his shares to him, and he obviously has no reason or intention of doing that at present.

Usmanov will just have to hang around and hope that Kroenke backs out at some point, although I'm sure Kroenke would prefer a bidding war rather than selling straight to Usmanov.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterAJL

You really should have a look at Wenger's press conference... it deserves an article on its own.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterMr J

Someone on Twitter reminded me that Juventus also built a new stadium in 2011, that didn't lead to prolonged failure like Wenger's.

Actually, Juventus kept on winning the league title and even have a Champions League Final appearance to boot.

For sure, Serie A is not as competitive like the Premier League but still it shows that squatter Wenger's new stadium excuse is a ruse to hide his persistent tactical incompetence. Am also surprised the media has let him off the hook by not mentioning Juventus' new stadium and their onfield success.

Wenger needs to go and Diego Simeone needs to take over ASAP.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered Commenternate

If Wenger is in charge next season (as he most likely will be) and its guaranteed that he will leave at the end of his contract, will your approach to the TEAM and following matches change? Do you see yourself being disinterested as he'll still be there or would you find yourself having a more involved approach to that season?

Surely Arsenal being in the Champions League next season would be better for the team long-term as we will be able to attract players.

We all know the last 16 is as good as it'll get under Wenger *yawn*, but I personally do not see the benefit of not being in the Champions League.

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AT

The benefit of not being in it is that it puts Wenger under extreme pressure. Being in it means nothing, as Wenger has no chance of competing for it and refuses to touch the resources it generates because he wants the owner to make big profits.

Arsenal will always attract top players, they don't need to be "world-class".

Long-term the club will be fine, when scumbag leaves. My approach won't be any different when he goes, all I've ever done is be truthful and honest and I'll continue to do that whoever is in charge.

Of course, the future might be approached with optimism rather than negativity - depending on who's appointed, so that might change the tone of the blog.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered Commentercollop

AT, I would assume that you may have seen or read the transcript from his majesty's latest press conference?

For me, it was over for him in 2008. He could have left with his head held high and I doubt there would have been any complaints from Arsenal fans, albeit we were denied a European trophy, but we did well domestically.

Arsene's latest outburst 'should' finally condemn him. He obviously still has acolytes that are prepared to thrown themselves in front of him, but the tide has, I believe, turned forever.

To churn out dirge for a decade IS tortuous, but we accept that success is never guaranteed so we (or some of us) turn a blind eye to it. Mostly because people do not know any better and are scared of the unknown. However, when the manager comes out and publicly blames the fans for his team's poor performances... that should mean the end.

Not that the players give a shit, but what must they think? Their manager has basically come out and said "my squad of multi-millionaire, World Cup winning, perma injured luvvies, just can't perform unless they get the unadulterated support from the fans. He's basically said, "my players are weak willed, cunts".

Wenger has 'done' the fans by suggesting their support is rubbish... and his players in one. Terrible press conference. I wonder if Arsene and that other piece of shit, Corbyn share the same script writers?

I'm not counting my chickens just yet, but surely the end must be nigh.

Arsenal need to act now, speedily and aggressively to end this purgatory.

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AT

The press conference was farcical and desperate. You could see the fear in him. He will hang on to his job for dear life and is obviously prepared for it to get very ugly indeed rather than take the hint and walk away.

So I would request fans ramp things up and make it very ugly indeed.

Have not seen the press conference and don't want to. The fact he has no comprehension on our perceptions on things shows he has dug his own grave. I could list hundreds of reasons why fans have had enough, but why bother? The man has shown how deluded he has become. Get the funeral anthems ready!!!

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AT

We've lived through the funeral, this is the cremation.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

Jeez... did he really just blame the home fans for our title bid failure??

I was 'Wenger-in' until 2011... 'un-militant detractor' between 2011-2015. But I think now, this season has eliminated all reasonable doubt that our manager can ever deliver at the top table again.

I think if fans mobilised and protested enough to get him out it may (sadly) be the best thing for him now.

I know there are plenty on here who hate him with a passion, but I just feel sad... we all know how this will end.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterJim

20 years and one failed CL final, 12 years without a championship. Close so many times but hindered by the sheer arrogance of Wenger, and by that I mean his incredible stubbornness in not signing players that were so desperately needed to compete.

And he didn't do it once, he did it two, three and four times. The same stubborn, arrogant, misplaced loyalty in below average players like Wally Walnut, Giroud, Gibbs, Santos, Almunia, Silvestre etc. Terrible players that should never ever have been considered at Arsenal.

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When have we been close in the last 12 years? Not once.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterDanish Gooner

My dear Mr Henry Root, it is fans like you that give us all a bad name. Going along to the Emirates only proves your disloyalty to the club. Financing a selfish/delusional regime shows you have little or no concept on what supporting a club is all about.

How many times did you go to Highbury? How often did you go along to support the teams of George Graham, Terry Neil, Bertie Mee (irrelevant I know). Such narrow minded crap is pathetic.

I haven't been to the Emirates for four years and only then it was because I was forced to go by my son who is a silver Member!

AT is right, the reason the club has regressed is due to those clueless supporters, like yourself, who accept such abject mediocrity as being OK. Any manager, and I mean ANY MANAGER, could have got more out of this Arsenal squad over the past eight years than our wonderful leader. He has become an embarrassment and a liability, pure and simple!!

If you think that Mr Wenger could walk into any other job, that is your right to think this. My own feelings are that he has cut his own throat with us and thus nullified any chance he may have had at securing a top job at another club.

Maybe Qatar would be one of those national teams willing to throw their billions (and Rolex watches) at him and, of course, we all know how much Mr Wenger enjoys his financial rewards. If you seriously think that this man is still capable of leading the club forward then I am afraid your right to call yourself a true fan no longer exists. Shame on you!

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

Wenger's time is up.
He wanted to prove he was superior to Ferguson.
He wanted to be unique in a way that he will play youngsters and still win so as to be called a genius.
He wanted to show everyone how good he is by using strange tactics.
He wanted to use very little money and nurture players in his own way.

All that backfired miserably and I am glad almost everyone is against him. Get that jerk out of this club. He has no brains and absolutely no idea of football.

April 29, 2016 | Unregistered Commentergrimsy b

@Delford Magaya: I think you should be the one doing the research. Once again, Wenger played down major signings in the summer: http://talksport.com/football/arsenal-fc-news-arsene-wenger-plays-down-chances-big-signings-summer-160429194119.

The AKB's reason that Wenger cannot spend on the players we need is because he's been deprived spending money is a farce. It's more down to Arsene's penny pinching and massive ego that he can win doing his way.

It worked back then when Man Utd and Arsenal were the most realistic teams to win the league, but it hasn't been successful for several years and he's too stubborn to change. Here's another fact I researched, since 1930, Arsenal's title winning record has been worse with Wenger in charge with three league titles in 20 seasons that's one per 6.7 years.

He gets paid £8 million a year and all he has to show for is either 3th and 4th finish for last 12 seasons and knocked out of last round of 16 in the Champions Leagues for the past 6 years, while the fans pay one of the highest ticket prices to watch home games, yet he has the gall to blame them because most had enough of his one-dimensional tippy tippy football, same old tactics and refusal to address the glaring deficiencies with squad.

Hope to see your article on the latest crap coming out of his mouth, AT. Not angry at his comments, more apathetic and thinking, "yeah, he would say something like that." Oh well, it will probably drive more empty seats or "Wenger out" signs for the Norwich match.

April 30, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterArsenal Fan

Here's a comment Wenger saying the likes of Kroenke never impeded him in the transfer market:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/arsenal-arsene-wenger-insists-ambitious-stan-kroenke-has-always-backed-him-transfer-market-1557538

Of course, the problem is the board don't pressure him to spend and compete for major trophies. But the AKBs will read into what he said and spout "See! Wenger is not been given money to spend! He's a hostage! Give him 5-year contact extension for overachieving once again this season!!!" aka you know, same old nonsense from those deluded fools.

April 30, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterArsenal Fan

Dear AT,

Simeone.

Kind regards,

marinersmullet.

April 30, 2016 | Unregistered Commentermarinersmullet

That was no protest! Amazing that empty seats from previous games were suddenly filled by those too concerned with their own self interests (obviously catching!).

DW given man of match award speaks volumes. Top 4 now a cert(yawn!), CL again, no hope again!!

April 30, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

Hey, AT and any non-deluded Arsenal supporters, if you want to throw up watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlDvP2Esq2A

It's an AKB sticking up for not only Wenger but the board as well. I nearly did it myself when he compared the club in its current state to Bayern Munich.

May 1, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterArsenal Fan

What yesterday showed is that AFC has the weakest, most passionless/spineless supporters out there. It seems that everyone who holds a season ticket is either consumed with guilt and embarrassment at voicing their anger, or are not prepared to show too much negative passion for fear of losing their annual seat at the Emirates.

I was ashamed by what happened and at least expected someone to stand up in front of one of those sky cameras and rip up their season ticket for the world and Mr Wenger to see. What a terrible weekend. Arsenal win, Man City lose, Man Utd draw (although great for Leicester). Lets hope Chelsea cheer us up by stopping Spurs.

Oh yeh, almost forgot, if there is anyone on this site who was at the game yesterday and did hold up their protest banner, if you have any balls whatsoever, cancel your membership with immediate affect and show your loyalty to the course!

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AT

There's no point getting wound up by it. Most of the supporters probably want Wenger to go but don't believe in protesting during a game. There was also 10,000 empty seats, which is a protest in itself. Had all those people been there, I'm sure 80% of them would have held up that piece of paper or a banner, putting a completely different complexion on things.

No one said getting rid of Wenger was going to be easy, or even possible, but yesterday was a big step. It's the first time I have ever seen any form of protest inside the stadium, and it is therefore not something the supporters are used to seeing, planning for or engaging with.

Those that did protest can be proud of their actions, and the fact that they were brave enough to do it will enable other supporters to feel less tentative about doing it in the future.

May 1, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

As a deluded idiot as we know the choker wenger is, he is a smart asshole at politics, e.g:

– Divide et impera tactic to split the fan base and established his ARMY OF CUNT FANS like dimwit posters here to fight for him.

– Rolling his PR WANKERS Machine.

– Always acting TO PLAY THE VICTIM to negate the abuse.

“His smart wipe ass is beyond everybody’s prediction, I guess.”

Thanks to the brave fans that stood up. Small step onwards to the bigger future mass protests.

May 2, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterForeign Gooner

I found this article of A Guide to REVERSE BRAINWASHING:

1. HOOK THE SHEEP.
In this stage we attract those who may be more receptive to waking up at the moment. From earlier discussions, we have found that certain things work well to attract the target population. Shiny things tend to catch peoples eye, that is, things that are oddly colored when compared to surroundings. The best way to go is LOUD. Clashing colors, bright graphics, complex, interesting looking graphics, these all get peoples attention. Make it ATTRACTIVE to teens these days. You know they spend all day in bland 'prisons', so make it look as different from the prison as possible. Place the propaganda in prominent locations. If you are going to disseminate fliers, dress cleanly and properly (depending on the location, maybe suit, maybe street gear), but don't say anything, just hand them out. At this point we are just trying to get them to notice.

2. REEL THEM IN.
So, you've caught their attention. Now, what do you TELL them off the bat? Generally, members agree to leave out as many inside jokes as possible. Leave out 'classic' rich words too. Most of all, intrigue them. Finally, give them somewhere to go.

3. OPERATION MINDFUCK.
In this stage we fuck with the dogma that is stuck in circuit. We weaken the prison with weirdness. It is the most difficult job of this process, and the most important. It is here that we begin changing the paradigm. When a critical point is reached, completely shatter their world view. Shock them. Warning: this can only work if they are first lulled into that semi-hypnotic state. This is the point of turning, where the dogma that has been ingrained is broken. What they knew can't possibly be true anymore. So give them something else to know.

4. REVERSING THE CYCLE.
Subliminal messages should be placed. These should span around central themes such as freedom, 'jailbreak', thinking for oneself, imagination, waking up, etc. gradually increase the frequency of these and decrease the subliminality, until the critical point is reached. Then, all things should be about these central themes. At this point, we are taking their closed mind and replacing it with an open one. We broke their reality, and now supply a better one.

5. WELCOME TO THE CONVERT.
So a person is converted. What next? They most likely go to find more like them. The convert should be welcomed and guided. They still have lots to learn.

CONCLUSION:
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached.

THIS PROTEST IS JUST THE SMALL BEGINNING STEP TO THE BIGGER ONES.

May 2, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterForeign Gooner

It's all getting a bit embarrassing now:
- a manager shit out of ideas and ambition
- an owner who didn't buy the club to win trophies
- a fan-base unable/unwilling to occasion change
- rival fans wanting him to stay

May 2, 2016 | Unregistered Commentermarinersmullet

AT: Take your point but still feel that our supporters have sat back and allowed things to escalate. It may be a step forward in the process but protesting can be in many forms. You say there were 10,000 empty seats but I'm convinced there were many in the stadium who could have done the same and stayed away but went along to see what would happen.

Getting wound up about it all is part of being a supporter and although my passions sometimes get the better of me, I hope that the brave ones show more intent as the pressure intensifies. No more posts for a while as I want to celebrate with all Leicester supporters and savour what it's like to see fans (and a club) who really deserve success.

May 2, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterGRAHAM

So the same fans that shamefully sang 'one Arsene Wenger', then went on to boo him for removing Iwobi instead of Giroud!

Only at Arsenal!

May 2, 2016 | Unregistered CommenterJacko

I was at the Norwich game. I've been at all the home games and a few away as well this season. There didn't look top be 10,000 empty seats although my eyesight isn't what it used to be. RE the protest. It was embarrassing. I personally couldn't be arsed to stand there waving a sheet of A4, but that's just me. Doesn't mean I don't agree with a lot that's being said. Those who could be arsed didn't muster any conviction at all.

You saying most of the supporters probably want Wenger to go but don't believe in protesting during a game is clutching at straws. If your prediction of 80% (I'm curious how you got this figure too) of the fans bothered to turn up it would still only amount to 8,000. The outcome of this is undoubtedly that most supporters do still seem to want Wenger in. That's their beef, of course

This protest, if anything, has given the media something to write about. Everything I've read in the lead up and afterwards has portrayed the situation as Arsenal fans being a bunch of spoilt pricks. This very possibly has benefited Wenger's cause in some warped way. He's a master at propaganda and will milk it for all it's worth. So the outcome of this could be that the protest has been detrimental to the very cause it set out to achieve.

Your blog seems to have become a one man crusade to oust Wenger. A good chunk of what you say I genuinely do agree with. But come on, it's all a bit contrived and boring now isn't it?

If I may put a question to you. Tottenham fans have been up in arms about the stick they got from Arsenal (and Chelsea and West Ham...) fans when they drew against West Brom. They think it's unjustified, the poor loves. Isn't this just the nature of football fans?

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AT

Yes it is boring, that's why I only post a few times per month.

Some blogs revel in telling anti-Wenger supporters how sad and obsessed they are, then obsessively throw fuel on the fire all day long. One even makes a living out of doing it.

P.S. I don't understand the question.

May 2, 2016 | Unregistered Commenterjohn cheese
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