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Wednesday
Apr052017

Wenger-out protests double/new protest/what was said at AST meeting?

The Wenger-out protests organised by the Online Gooner have more than doubled in size from the 400-strong protest at the Bayern Munich home game on the 7th March to over 1,000 prior to Sunday’s home game against Man City.

There have only been two games in between, which shows that supporters are getting their heads round the idea that it’s okay to protest. The bigger the protests become, the more fans will take part as they start to realise it’s the only way to pressurise the board into revoking Wenger’s contract.

Tonight, there will be another protest prior to the West Ham game. Fans will assemble at the old Highbury, Avenell Road, at 7pm, and march to the Two Cannons Roundabout outside the Armoury. Further to that, there will be a protest inside the stadium with supporters asked not to take their seats until 13 minutes after kick-off at 7:58. This is an alternative way of heaping pressure on the manager via the board.

As owner Stan Kroenke only cares about money, any resistance he perceives having a financial effect is more likely to make him sit up and take notice. If there is a repeat of the estimated 10,000 supporters that didn’t bother turning up to Sunday’s game against Man City, then combined with  this protest it shows a very clear and visible sign of dissent. However, with so many supporters voting with their feet, it does make you wonder how big these protests would really be with them on board too.

Some fans might think that 'turning their backs' on the players for the first 13 minutes of a game displays an unwarranted lack of support, but what’s best for the players (assuming they ever want to compete for a major trophy again) is for Wenger to leave, so you’re actually doing them a favour.

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CEO Ivan Gazidis met the AST (Arsenal Supporters’ Trust) on Sunday, but very little of what was said has been leaked out. All we have is a paltry Gazidis quote about Arsenal’s form needing to be a “catalyst for change”. So where’s the rest of what was said at that meeting?

When questioned about Gazidis’s quote at yesterday’s pre-match press conference, Wenger predictably rejected the need for change. Naturally, some have assumed this represents a gulf between the ideology of the board and the manager.

Of course, we still don’t know what’s really going on, but there are three scenarios:

1) Gazidis is spouting any old crap; he just wants to get to the end of the season before announcing a new deal for Wenger.

2) No decision has been made regarding Wenger’s future, but Gazidis genuinely wants change and is trying to implement it in a diplomatic way with Wenger on board.

3) Gazidis wants to force through change and deliberately create resistance between the board and the manager in the hope that he steps down.

One has to hope option 3 is the actionable one, but knowing the way this spineless board operates, it's merely delaying making an announcement on Wenger staying until the season is over and the lights are switched out.

Note: Arsenal Truth is now on Twitter @TruthArsenal.

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Not taking to seats heaps pressure on the team these idiots pretend to support ffs.

It's also desperately amusing that you talk of the protesters having doubled in a way that suggests it's big. It's not, it's pathetic. 400 is about 0.5% of paying supporters. That means over 99% are not protesting.

Just like the media, you're perpetuating a non-story and destabilising the club. If, as people claim (and I included this site) they support the club, then bloody well do so and show some "support" instead of behaving like petulant children who believe you know it all and have a right to get exactly what you stamp you feet for.

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AT

I am supporting the club, because Wenger and the board is divisible from the club. You are not supporting the club, you are supporting Wenger, Kroenke and Gazidis.

Try to think of Arsenal as a once-proud but rotting institution, shamed by the board and abandoned by people like you.

April 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterRealist

Sadly AT, I think you are correct and that scenario 1 is the most likely to play out.

Wenger forms a buffer between the board and fans. He takes all the flak while the absentee owner and board cruise along easy street to destination cash. I just cannot see them removing him and exposing themselves to what would be far worse protests with the AKBs and remaining silent masses on board.

Wenger cuts a more pathetic figure as each press conference goes by. His insane ramblings are as comical as they are baffling.

To think that there are people out there ready to trade punches in order to perpetuate this predictable mediocrity is mindblowing.

April 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterJacko

Good article AT. It's anyone's guess as to how this Wenger nonsense will pan out, but I think he will stay on, maybe only for one year rather than two, and that the Board will give us all a spoonful of sugar to help the medicine go down by relieving him of certain responsibilities and handing them to a newly appointed Director of Football; and make promises of freshening up the coaching staff and/or the scouting network.

None of which will eradicate the problem of course.

It would be interesting to see, in such an outcome, how many AFC fans would accept such measures as acceptable changes to the clubs management infrastructure. Wenger out.

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AT

There's no way Wenger would accept working under a Director of Football.

April 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterDB10

AT,

I'm glad to see the numbers are increasing, but more are needed to really start making people sit up and take notice... most importantly, the sponsors. Regardless, I hope someone somewhere actually cares.

For me, the official act of signing has already been done and we are waiting for the next win for it to be slipped in. From what we know of Arsenal, I can't see them a) not actually having a contract for Adolf to sign or b) if there is one, to rescind it - the climb down would be monumental and not something Gazides is capable of.

The season will be over in a month and that doesn't leave a lot of time to get a new manager in, away from their current club, contracts signed, compensation paid and a list of players the new manager would need to rebuild. I'm afraid it all smacks of Arsene and Arsenal waiting until the crowd are docile (normally after a win) before they drop the bomb.

We can only hope the results keep stinking the place up and fan pressure keeps growing. I still doubt it will make a difference, but it will be more fun watching than the actual dirge being served up.

The board have form with this sort of crap. They put out some misdirection which splits the fan base and then next year, it is as you were.

Hopefully, I am wrong with this and it is a play from Gazidis. There are rumours of discord between Gazidis and Wenger with the former being ambitious and the latter - well - he is doing anything that he can to cling on to power.

What I don't understand is Wenger's incredibly arrogant stance regarding the whole thing. I think that he has something lined up already, or he has the backing of Kroenke, which would allow him to make such ridiculously embarrassing remarks.

Well, at least they aren't talking about the football on display...

April 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterBegeegs

well....errrrrrr......overall....errrrrrr "Realist"....errrrrr.....do you still leetle beet belieeeeeeeeeeeeeve?

pfffffmwwaaaahahahahahahahaha

April 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterWrinkly Voyeur

The AST are, and always have been, a joke. Don't have the good of the club at heart and are not strong enough to question Wenger and his cronies. Wenger has never concerned himself with feedback or input from outside bodies and whilst the AST may come out now to question his role, they will have little or no say in what happens next.

As previously highlighted, a half-empty stadium tonight will have the powers that be squirming a wee bit more.

April 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterHAMISH McFADDEN

A 3-0 win. What is Wenger waiting for? Why hasn't he announced he's staying after this ahem 'great' result?

April 5, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterChris J

Hahaha…

Arsene manages to live to fight another day. How often have we seen this script repeated over -
ad infinitum

I’m mindful of the fact, to go over the same ground, that bloggers have debated 'til kingdom come, about the deficiencies in OGL!!! I'll just make it short and snappy (understatement), given OGL and the club in general, it certainly isn’t worthy of one’s time, energy and quite frankly any modicum of paid attention.

So,in the words of a notable philosopher-a few noteworthy parables describe OGL in a nutshell.Read into it,what you will.Draw your own conclusions…

“Power brings a man many luxuries, but a clean pair of hands is seldom among them.”

“What is leadership, after all, but the blind choice of one route over another and the confident pretense that the decision was based on reason”


... and lastly, with my own translations of the following parables by another philosopher:

“Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century."

1)”Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others”
In Arsene’s case,surround yourself with yes man. Strong characters are to be removed or dealt/dispensed with. Ask yourself this question,which strong characters still remain at Arsenal(on the footballing front) - say after 5 years?

2)”Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected.”
Oil sheiks, financial doping, failure of FFP, Abramovich, Mourinho. Strong characters that left (Vieira, RVP, Cesc, etc.), Winning an actual CL,or EPL Trophy). Hair pills as a cause for injuries...lol

3)”Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it.”
Yep, winning an EPL title -13 years and counting. And may I add, a CL/European trophy (or lack of it) 30 years in management and counting).

4)”Refusing to set aside trivial preferences.”
Refusing (in short - pure stubbornness, borne out of personal selfishness) to adapt to the modern game - tactics, in-game management, predictable substitutions, structural infrastructure for fear of losing the power grip), extending contracts of perennial crocks (to buy loyalty in order to safeguard one’s total dictatorial position), offering a one pound bid for a world class striker -Suarez - because of phantom values. Refusing to buy X. Alonso because it would destroy Denilson. Dispensing with Henry as his job with Sky was in conflict with Arsene’s management style.

5)”Neglecting development and refinement of the mind.”
Adapting to modern times, updating backroom staff, embracing technology, modern tactics. Not sitting on the bench rocking back and forth like a madman in a straight jacket when you team goes down a goal. Could add in the zipper and smashing/kicking the water bottle malarkey, but not so important.

6)”Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do.”
Yes the classic. Brainwashing the fans, pundits or whoever he appeals to, to politely inform us that top 4 is a trophy. That now the goal is to finish as high as possible. That we can’t be a big club, if we sell Cesc and Nasri. And that he has reinvented himself, and that the next level is the next level is the next level, without politely informing us mere mortals his vision for taking the club forward.

Oh, and also despite yearly ritual humiliations (10-2, 8-2, 6-0, care to add in your own recalled results) and top 4 finishes, not only is that feat an achievement, but playing good football is an achievement in itself and everything else is literature. Besides he built the club, and Arsenal only existed after he came on board. What a guy!!! A partnership made in heaven if you ask me :-)

Draw your own conclusions, for any fan that is still sitting on the fence, given the charade that has persisted for nigh on a decade and a half under OGL's tutelage.

Cheers.

April 6, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterPhD07

Chris J,

My prediction is the AKB's old comic, still waiting the reaction of the flip floppers as the silent real majority fans. That would be indicated by how many of them still renewing their Season Ticket by June even after out of top 4.

Sadly, methinks the real problem is not Arsene, Stan, the AKB cunts, or even the WOB. The silent ignorant can't walk away from attending the matches at Emirates as the silent majority flip flop fans that would swing with their buddies, AKB cunts, is the real problem like after this great whammers result.

April 6, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterForeign Gooner

Foreign Gooner, fair point. I'm firmly Wenger out and feel that if we win the next two games he'll announce he's staying.

April 6, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterChris J

How did the protest go on Weds evening? FOREIGN GOONER is right. It is the silent ignorant who attend matches that are helping to prolong the agony. Shame on you all for even applauding a goal, but more importantly shame on you for even entering the ground.

April 7, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterHAMISH McFADDEN

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April 10, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterChris

Hi AT, do you not think the signs are there that he has already signed and the top echelons are thinking s**t what have we done?

The longer this story goes on the more I think it's becoming obvious this is the case.

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AT

Possibly, but it wouldn't cost that much to terminate a two-year contract.

April 11, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterJoe P

@AT, if the contract has been signed hopefully the board have put a clause that states they can sack him for a small amount of compensation or even nothing if he fails to get top four this season.

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AT

That would assume they know what they're doing. Little evidence thus far to back that up.

April 11, 2017 | Unregistered CommenterChris

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